Hey gang, we are deep into NYCC this weekend so we’re going to get right to a quick recap and then jump to discussion.
It’s been a loooong wait since Season 3 wrapped up with the Governor turning on his remaining people and their exodus to the Prison. We pick up after a decent amount of time has passed. The prison has a garden, livestock, and an alarming number of walkers at the fences. Rick has given up the gun and taken up farming. Everyone has a job to do: some are on walker detail at the fences, some go on supply runs, some teach, etc.
Tyreese, who has a romance blossoming with Karen, was on fence detail but has decided to switch to supply runs. He heads off with Daryl, Michonne, Glenn, and some new faces: Army Medic Bob Stookey (The Wire’s Lawrence Gilliard Jr.) and Zach (Veronica Mars’ Kyle Gallner), who appears to be Beth’s boyfriend.
On the supply run, the group heads to a large grocery store. Unbeknownst to them, there is a crashed helicopter on the roof complete with a horde of walkers. The soggy roof is threatening to cave in at any minute.
Inside the store, Bob Stookey is contemplating a bottle of booze, obviously something he’s dealt with in the past. As he slams the bottle back on the shelf, it crashes down on top of him, trapping him. Attracted to the noise, the walkers converge on that part of the roof. The increased weight causes the roof to give. With the structural integrity gone, walkers start crashing down through the roof all over the store.
The group struggles to free Bob, eventually succeeding but Zach is pulled down by a zombie where it’s able to take a large chunk out of his neck. The group returns to Woodbury. Daryl delivers the bad news to Beth, who seems immune to the loss of loved ones after all they’ve been through.
While this is going on, Rick heads into the woods to check the traps for game before the walkers can get to it. While out he comes across a strange women, who begs him to help her and her husband, who is back at camp. Rick tells her that they can come back with him if he thinks they are ok people and they can answer three questions.
Once back at her camp, the woman pulls a knife and charges Rick. Her attempt is unsuccessful. Distressed and possibly ashamed, she stabs herself. As she lays dying the woman admits to Rick that she thought it would be easier to trick him into coming back with her to feed her walker husband than to try and drag the hog back. She begs Rick to leave her be when she turns into a walker and asks him what his three questions are. Rick stays with her while she passes and asks her the three questions:
How many walkers have you killed?
Have you killed any of the living?
Why?
While Rick is in the woods dealing with the stranger, Carol is having story time with the younger children in the Prison. Carl’s friend Patrick (played by Vincent Martella of Phineas and Ferb fame) gets nauseous and asks to leave to use the bathroom. Story time continues but once the other adult leaves the room, Carol brings out a chest of knives and begins to teach the children how to defend themselves. Carl comes in and sees this. Carol asks him not to tell his father.
That night at the Prison Patrick is extremely ill. Without telling anyone he stumbles to the bathroom, throws up, and then falls to the ground. The final shot of the show is Patrick coming back from the dead as a walker.
So what did you think?!
Was it worth the wait?
What’s up with Patrick’s illness (speculation here)?
Where’s the Governor?
Is Michonne on a fool’s quest trying to find him?
How did we feel about farmer Rick?
Are his 3 questions sufficient?
What DID Daryl used to do?
We want to hear what you have to say! We’ll give a shirt and any Walking Dead softcover volume to the best comment below!
sweet!!
Man i was so hoping to see a “crawler”
ms. Piggy disease
I feel like Ricks questions are really great but there should be more background check
Well get ready for everyone to be eaten in 402
Its raining zombies! Show was awesome! Can’t wait till next week
I was definitely hoping for a long ep!
they have to set the ambiance of post gov’ through a winter and spring of stability….next week will be different…first we have to know the players and the pecking order
Hope they get known well enough!
The episode was really good I think the illness is coming from somewhere in there supllies whether be food or water because the pig is also affected and for the governor I think he is somewhere waiting for the right moment to attack plotting his revenge it was definitely worth the wait and can’t wait for more thanks so much to the walking dead and happy 10th!
Loved the episode as well, but I don’t see how the virus would be from the supplies. Since everyone is infected with the virus, why would it matter if the stuff is contaminated? Unless what they ingest causes them to die…
I think the virus itself is why pig or Patrick died but them getting sick is something in there supplies they are coming in contact with
Meant the virus is not why sorry *
Yeah. It has to be contamination causing illness that then carries out the virus. I don’t think it is a direct infection nor airborne. Plus everyone is infected regardless of contamination.
I said ms piggy disease but it logged me in as someone else. Weird. @astanger
Did Patrick eat the pig and get infected? And when it started raining zombies my mind went straight to “it’s raining men” song.
Will #Pookie become a thing? Can we getbit to trend everyweek? Daryl should just be Pookie from now on.
it’s raining me…la la la la….me,too
I don’t see a contamination problem…could be the logical scientist in me though 😡
And I was singing the same thing lol I wouldn’t say hallelujah though.
Patrick’s illness came from something he ate or maybe he injured him self some how it got into his blood stream
Where do I begin?! I am still so excited that Carol is all flirty with Daryl because that’s the only time he gets flustered 🙂 plus, she is her own badass with “story time”. Raining walkers. Holy shit! Poor Beth is going through more boyfriends than Taylor Swift. Carl isn’t a mini-Gov. Michonne and Rick seem to be…friendly. I still hate Karen even if Tyrese is feelin’ her. Love Maggie and Glenn <3 Secretly glad she isn't pregnant. Isn't Judith enough? Rick is a wack job. Hershel seems to be the voice of reason/priest of the group. Sasha is becoming a new favorite 🙂 Love the sass.The crazy little blonde girl scares me…like creepy child in scary movie. The way Patrick died intrigues me…I was discussing the virus with my Microbiology professor if the virus is already latent within our bodies, in can be induced to come out from stress, radiation, etc. It seems like it doesn't have to just be death that does you in…
i agree,,,we wlll see people spontaneously turn
from virus,,maybe.
Exactly! It’s also infecting the animals as seen with Violet. We already know everyone is infected, so I don’t see how contaminated water supply/food supply would affect it from a science point of view. Perhaps the body was just stressed to the point of infection? Side note: all I could think about the walkers banging on the cage was a Great White Shark!
I feel like she could possibly get prego still she could be lying
Possibly. In the trailer for Season 4/comics they do discuss about going on their own.
Yes i completely agree with you but didn’t want to ruin the comic world for people.
Oops!
I am so conflicted. I don’t want them to leave but at the same time with all the people, the prison isn’t safe.
Yes! I don’t think they should go unless they have a group! They’re like part of the family.
Exactly! I mean what they had before was great because there are people you trust and have endured this suffering with. If you decide to go on your own, you are putting yourself at risk. There is protection in number, but with too many there is also danger.
I really do think the entire group should move because it seems they’re drawing a lot more walkers.
I definitely agree with that. Obviously someone is baiting the prison to attract even more walkers. Either that or fortify/stabilize the walls. Chain link fences aren’t going to cut it.
The Governor is hiding like a wuss! I look for him to come back for “his people”.
I think Michonne is taking care of personal demons and helping the camp out at the same time by searching for the Governor.
think she will hook up with rick?
God i could only hope for a dream team like that! Talk about a real asskicker baby!
Shuddup u embarrasment
The TV universe of The Walking Dead is a different thing from the comic universe. This here is for the TV universe. Got a problem to damn bad. They are both great stories and are meant to do the same thing in the end which is to entertain.
Worth the wait…? Is that even a question? Patrick is ill because of the deer Daryl got him! Governor is hiding in Macon… MIchonne wants to find and kill the governor so bad… and won’t stop till she does. Farmer Rick is interesting…. that explains it all. Were his 3 questions sufficient? No better way of finding someones trust. Daryl used to be an undercover homicide detective. I love the walking dead <3
No way it was the deer, everyone else would be infected too. Also you’re forgetting the pig dying as well.
Was it the well water? Maybe he’s the only one using that shower?
I don’t see a contamination problem. Everyone is infected with the virus no matter what so unless they are dying from what they are consuming, it doesn’t make any sense.
No not necessarily a homocide detective- i feel like daryl was lying
Yea
Farmer Rick seems like a big distraction for Rick. In a way i think it’s a good “hobby” for him but come on his real hobby is being the leader! It’s what he’s good at.
Daryl is an actor. Duhhh
Well, if someone offered me some bacon and a glass of water tonight, I would respectfully decline.
Idk bacon is pretty awesome!
None of you have read the comic so keep on thinking you’re the biggest fans when you only watch the show
I have – every issue – don’t hate on people.
Really. How many issues have there been? And there’s a good chance you will use Google but whatever
115 just came out wed
Touche. Still, too many people like I mentioned
Same here Andrew! I love both. So glad there’s a TV show of the comic. Its amazing that they did it and it has gone this far mainly because of fan support!
Daryl had to have been in and out of jail in his life maybe something like run a biker gang in a redneck town. It seems like doing the wrong thing was in his nature before the outbreak maybe his brother was a big part of that.
Loved the story. But could you put some more money in your lighting budget and give us at least some light in the indoor scenes? I know you want realism, but it becomes more like listening to radio. And radio gave verbal clues in their dramas to let the audience know what they were “seeing.”
Turn the lighting up on your tv
I’ve read the comics @ David Forggia
This was everything you can ask for in anything zombie/walker related. It also helps if you crank up “It’s Raining Men” while the walkers fall!
Lmao!
Its a all out war to survive
Come on this camp is full of people! I think people are the most valuable resource but also vice versa! Right!?!?!
Perhaps a zombie flu
Ferb I know what we are going to do today……. Die
Even though it was quite confusing, I think it was worth the wait. Every time a commercial came on i was on the edge of my seat waiting for the show to come back on. I’m not sure about Patrick’s illness. It probably had to do with the deer that Daryl got “I’d be honored to shake your hand”. The Governor is most likely in hiding, or was killed. We don’t have any evidence yet. Michonne has every reason to go find him. He needs to be taken down. But she is definitely risking her life on this quest. Farmer Rick is definitely something to get used to. It may be a way to get some of the leadership stress off of him. His 3 questions are very logical, reasonable, and sufficient. Daryl used to be a cop.
Poor Patrick ZTD’S are bad
Got us a great season Brian can’t wait
The whole bloody face thing that Patrick and that one walker at the gate have in common is pretty interesting. It’s probably a new way the virus is spreading. Maybe since the virus is inside everyone his sickness just brought it out. Michonne is obviously hell-bent on revenge for the Governor…I think she’s bad-ass and unstable enough to go 70 miles looking for him. I think Rick is going to pick up that gun again in the near future whether he likes it or not. He should start asking those questions BEFORE he goes back to other people’s camps. And Daryl was probably something insignificant that we would never guess. Not an undercover detective.
I agree with the Patrick thing it’s very interesting!
The Patrick-theory seems legit. It’s almost as if they are crying blood. Their eyes also look a lot different.
Here’s a thought. Is all of the killing of the walkers right outside the fences causing the infected blood to seap into the soil and taint the food they are growing?
I wouldn’t see how blood itself would taint the soil. Blood cells only live 120 days in our bodies and wouldn’t be able to live in soil environments.
Love that theory! Wouldn’t others be infected by now also?
It depends. The pig was slowly getting sicker and the died. Hard to say how long it would take to work on the different human characters. Now it has gone from the ground to the animals, then to the humans, and finally to the water. Who knows? Sonika may be right, but this is all zombie related so who really can tell what could or could not happen logically.
Exactly. I don’t want to get too much into the science because I don’t know how they are working it.
Yeah it’s really hard to know mainly because there’s never enough back info on the virus. If you recall the zombie in the well at the farm its kinda the same thing but i can’t remember if they didn’t drink the water
Nathan Fillion! Badass! Firefly! Total geek here!
If we are lucky Carl will get eaten
I don’t see that happening anytime soon but maybe he’ll at least get hurt.
ok, Phineas dies, but WHY is Carol calling Daryl “Pookie?”
She has been teasing/flirting with him since season 3. It’s pretty hilarious because very rarely does Daryl get embarrassed and blush.
Farmer Rick is much safer than crazy Rick. You never really recover from trauma especially waking up in the hospital alone trying to piece this all together…and having his wife cheat on him with his best friend who tried to kill him…and his wife dying. Michonne wants her revenge. She would have killed the Governor back when she took his eye if it wasn’t for Andrea. She wants blood and closure. The three questions seem sufficient especially with the council. Only true sociopaths, in the zombie apocalypse, would be able to smooth talk their way in. And Daryl? He was a little punk as a kid. Beat by his father. He was probably either an orphan or put in a boy’s home. He is intuitive, a hunter, and a true man of nature. Total badass.
I can tell that the three questions were sufficient, and will continue to be in further episodes. They question one’s humanity, and you can tell that in this season of The Walking Dead, there is not much left.
Zombies are evolving into what appears to be talking humans. Asking to be taken into the community. Good example of this is the woman Rick found. The community will have a threat which they can not defend.
There is so many more days of accidents to come
Was that comic that michonne handed Carl a walking dead issue 1 on top
It was a invincible. 🙂
I seen that also! I was wondering the same!
Re-watching the kids at the fence. Gosh, if they are baiting the prison it’s like a whole Children of the Corn complex. Yikes!
Lol true that!
This medic dude was a huge change from the comic!
Also, leaving creepy Clara to become a walker? That past may literally and figuratively come back to bite you (or your people), Rick.
History does have a habit of repeating. All I can say is father like son? hint hint
Haha I love it! 😀 I’m so excited for this season…although I wish there were more than 16 episodes.
Well, Rick didn’t stab the forest lady. She stabbed herself. She asked him what his questions were as she was dying. 1. How many Walkers have you killed? She said Eddie killed all of them. 2. How many people have you killed. She said “just me”. The 3rd was Why? She said because you can’t come back. Then she died. Then it showed her and her husband covered up as Rick was walking away. We didn’t see her become a walker.
Also, they returned to the prison after the supermarket. not Woodbury.
Other than that great review lol.
I think daryl and carol should get together they both deserve love especially carol who should know the love of a GOOD man. plus their rhyming names are just too cute. with the blood comng out of patricks mouth its gotta be something he consumed.
Poor Patrick, the SWINE FLU got him!
The most haunting parts of the episode were the quotes. Herschel talking
to Rick explaining how to grow the plants–“Even though its broken it
can still grow.” Great symbolism describing how he, Rick, can still
grow and be a human even though he just came through a time of personal
brokenness. Maggie telling Glenn that she doesn’t want to be afraid to
live. When Glenn disagrees, Maggie says fear “That’s only what keeps us
breathing.” Implying there is more to “living” than just having air in
our lungs. Without that spark of life–mariage, love, babies–you are
no better than the dead yourself. Probably not an episode those in it
for the gore wanted to see, but for those who appreciate the art of
subtle storytelling–it was rich!
carl has every right to be messed up he had to shoot his own mom last season. he had to grow up to soon and to fast
Hershel gives rick hope
I wonder why they were so aggressive about establishing the black guy (forgot his name) that goes on the run with them and gets stuck under the shelves. They quickly establish that 1. He was found by Darryl ON HIS OWN. 2. He has only been with the camp for a week. 3. He was an Army Medic. He also seemed a bit too eager to go on a run with the team to earn his keep, it’s admirable to want to earn the care you’re given, but the fact that he wanted to partake in the most dangerous task they do, was almost as if he laughed at the danger, and ultimately ended up compromising their mission, losing a member in the process. He is also the last character highlighted prior to Patrick stumbling into the showers. Coincidence? Perhaps, but this show has trained me to pay very close attention to such things.
Patrick may have swine flu or some version thereof; coincidence the pig died too? Or…Daryl spit on his hand and shook Patrick’s,..Typhoid Daryl?? What if walkers could talk?… Walkie Talkie’s…ha…can you imagine the taunting they would be doing at the fence (right back at the kids)…my name is Steve! Daryl didn’t have a job, he lived off the land; but if he did work, it was dry-walling/construction. Farmer Rick is not appealing! His questions are fine, what else, really, could they ask? The Governor is out there building a new following; Michonne just needs to be “doing” something. And, YES, it was absolutely worth the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!